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a meeting with john mccain, instagram, and kelly ayotte, all republicans who have been the chief skeptics about her potential nomination as secretary of state, almost entirely based on what they see as withholding or a distortion of information about the attack in benghazi on september 11 that cost the lives of the u.s. ambassador chris stevens and three other americans. -- john mccain, lindsey graham, and kelly ayotte. it is a meeting to try to appease your critics. after she came out of the meeting, it appeared to their opposition to them had increased. if the president intends to nominate susan rice as a successor to hillary clinton as secretary of state -- and most indications from the white house are that the president wants to go ahead with it -- it will be an interesting standoff. host: let's hear what kelly ayotte had to say, republican of new hampshire. they met with the secretary. [video clip] >> i want to say i am more trouble today having met with the acting director of the cia and ambassador rice, because it is certainly clear from the beginning that we knew that those with t
in in january, today, the scott brown for senate campaign 2.0 got everything it could hope for from john mccain, lindsey graham from john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly ayotte after their meeting with ambassador rice. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than before. >> i'm more troubled today. >> senator mccain's embarrassing past with libya includes a meeting in tripoli in 2009 with gadhafi to discuss the possible delivery of military equipment to that dictator at his side at that meeting, as usual of course, was lindsey graham. also joining him was senator joe lieberman. today sh after meeting with ambassador rice, joe lieberman chose not to join the baseless criticism of ambassador rice. >> based on what she has said as clearly as possible, backed up by the director of the cia, i think it wouldn't be fair to disqualify her based on what she said. >> ambassador rice released this statement after meeting with the republican senators. while we certainly wish we had >> ambassador rice released this statement after meeting
. >> stephanie: laura in rockford, illinois. hello, laura welcome. >> caller: hi, john mccain should be embarrassed, so should lindsey graham. they should be ashamed of themselves. they look like they're beating up on some woman who doesn't deserve it. >> stephanie: they look like bullies. that's why i'm glad we gave money to the trevor project. bullying is bullying. lindsey graham standing up and saying, she shouldn't have said anything. do you think they would have been screaming cover up? >> caller: i want to make one comment. i know darn well before the meeting with susan rice, i betcha anything john mccain said no matter what happens no matter what she says, we're troubled. >> stephanie: i think they set her up. they said, we're willing to listen and softening on her. they set her up so she'll come and talk to them. and then they open it up again. >> and they made sure they were closed door meetings so you wouldn't know what susan rice said, and they come at her any way. >> we're nor troubled now than before. well what did she say? >> stephanie: go ahead. >> caller: i thought it
your calls at 1-866-55-press. how about this. everybody's trying to figure out why john mccain and lindsey graham are so busy attacking susan rice. well maybe it's because -- think about this, if the president can't appoint susan rice, then he would have to appoint john kerry and that would open up a massachusetts senate seat for scott brown. so it could all be a way of getting back another republican in the united states senate. don't know for sure. just sayin'. all right. we'll look into that and a whole lot more here but first standing by with today's current news update, lisa ferguson in los angeles. hi lisa. take it away. >> hey bill, thanks. good morning everyone. as president heads to meet with leaders of the business world this afternoon politico is reporting that john boehner and his leadership team are making plans to meet with some of these very same executives. now the irony here is that obama and boehner still have no plans to meet themselves face-to-face. the two did meet before congress' thanksgivi
's been doing. what he's not doing is involving himself in anyway in the political debate. when john mccain lost or john kerry lost they had day jobs to go back to on the hill so thermometer automatically and instantly involved in the debate pep isn't but not showing any inclinton acceleration to be even though we're in a crisis at this moment, particularly the republican party is crying out for some sort of leadership to have somebody to move people along to a compromise. he conceivably could be that man but he seems to be very much looking intern fiscally. >> it's a small sliver of people alive that can understand exactly what the governor is going through now. but certainly not within the heightened style of election process that we go through now. one romney adviser compared romney with al gore's weight gain and beard after the election saying that most likely will not be happening in terms of letting his discipline go about his lifestyle. however, is it more a choice of romney not be involved with the republican party sore at any time fact that the roeb party has pretty much given him
lindsey graham, kelly ayotte and -- >> they were upset. john mccain over the weekend. >> john mccain backed up. >> so it's really cool when she said i'm sorry. >> she did the brave thing and went right in there and said i want to -- >> how did that work. >> and talked about her initial account of the attack and explained to them she was relying on faulty intelligence and talking points from the intelligence community. >> they said? >> they said, you know what, we still don't get it. >> throw the video. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. it is clear that the information that she gave the american people was incorrect. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before. >> if you don't know what happened just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and i want to say -- >> i'm more troubled today knowing having met with the acting director of the cia and ambassador rice. clearly the impression that was given, the information given to the american people was wrong, in fact, ambassador r
and is a distinguished economist. he was john mccain's economic adviser in the first campaign. he is now running the american action forum. he is one of the best hot shots on fiscal issues but does it kindly and then we have steve case. i wanted to give him chairmanship of the jobs council, jeff immelt had that but not for long. steve case, one of the founders and chairman of aol, he chairs the entrepreneurship council, chairman of revolution, very tied up in trying to think about what are the spark the drive innovation, creativity, how do you drive young people here. you have been involved in a major study, u.s. competitive project at harvard business school. engage thousands of people, thousands of voices, discussions with hundreds of economic leaders and come up with a eight point plan of things you are advocating. i have gone through and some of that makes a lot of sense to me. it would have made sense in the 1990s and the 1980s. what makes you think this is such a big deal now? >> i want to say we have had a chance to interact with the jobs council in the harvard business school effort and
on a sunday show to talk about an event, that's what john mccain does. are they saying she should have given the unclassified version of the report she was given by the cia? then that would have been criticized. >> you're unfit because you're imparting secrets. >> exactly. >> rice was able to win over someone, joe lieberman. take a listen. >> i would not feel that her appearances and anything she said on those sunday morning talk shows september 16th would disqualify her for appointment to any other office. >> leishman in the context, he's retiring, he's not going to be around to vote on this. but is he signaling for other democrats basically that she has a clear path if her name does come up for nomination? >> i think that's right. joe lieberman is conservative, a hawk, respected by some senators on foreign policy issues. there may be three republican senators who don't like her, another 97 who have votes, the house members who have been campaigning against her don't have votes. something chip said, it would be weird or odd for this process to be playing out if she is not going to be nomina
's just a simple question about john mccain and lindsey graham and john mccain and lindsey graham, do you think they are crazy and you can answer yes or maybe. >> what i believe is that susan rice is an incredible person with a great deal of intelligence and integrity and n ought to be taken r for her word. i think it's really unfortunate for her. >> i don't think senators are crazy in my experience, so i've been theorizing this is about opening up the secretary of state job for john kerry, so if they then reopen a massachusetts senate seat r for scott brown. is that your sense of the game that's being played? >> i have no idea. you are much more mcvalue yan thinking than am. >>> coming up, we'll find out about ari melber and guess who's coming to dinner? mitt romney's last chance to get into the white house is coming up. >>> what could they have to talk about? maybe they can reminisce about their days at harvard law coschl where the president was president of the law review and mitt romney wasn't. mitt romney's trip to the white house tomorrow where barack obama is president and mitt rom
piece of senate business, this oddity of susan rice. it's just a simple question about john mccain and lindsey graham and john mccain and lindsey graham, do you think they are crazy and you can answer yes or maybe. >> what i believe is that susan rice is an incredible person with a great deal of intelligence and integrity and ought to be taken for her word. i think it's really unfortunate for her. >> i don't think senators are crazy in my experience, so i've been theorizing this is about opening up the secretary of state job for john kerry, so if they then reopen a massachusetts senate seat r for scott brown. is that your sense of the game that's being played? >> i have no idea. you are much more mcvavalian thinking than 1 am. >>> coming up, we'll find out about ari melber and guess who's coming to dinner? mitt romney's last chance to get into the white house is coming up. [ male announcer ] we all make bad decisions. like say, gas station sushi. cheap is good. and sushi, good. but cheap sushi, not so good. it's like that super-low rate on not enough car insurance. pretty sketchy.
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. >>> up next, some wishful thinking in john mccain and john kerry. watch how kerry stays out of this. he's not campaigning, and he's careful here. and this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> back to "hardball." now to the "sideshow." at the kennedy center honors last night comedian ray romano paid tribute to david letterman but slipped in a bow to president obama. >> you want to win the world series. do you quit, you're down one game to nothing? no, you keep going. you keep going. do you quit when you're down 1-0 in debates? no. no. you keep going. >> that's true. this year's honorees included dustin hoffman, led zeppelin, and more. and the president spoke to them at a white house reception and pointed out a hiccup in his own speech writing process. >> we've got buddy guy sitting next to dustin hoffman. we've got dave letterman alongside one of the greatest ballerinas of all time. i don't think dave dances. i worked with the speech writers, there's no smooth transition from ballet to led zeppelin. of course, these guys also redefined the rock and roll lifestyle. we do not have vi
over the ambassador comments following the benghazi attack. senator john mccain, lindsey graham, kelly ayotte of new hampshire met privately with her today. it did not go well. listen. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before. information given the american people was wrong. ambassador rice said it was wrong and to be clear, if you are an ambassador to the united nations you go well beyond the unclassified talking points in the daily preparation for that job. >> we are significantly troubled by the answers that many got. some we didn't get. >> she had no intention to mislead the american people. >> the white house blames the critics. listen. >> the focus on some might say the obsession on comments made on sunday shows seems to me and to many to be misplaced. >> the national shows get too much attention. are you surprised that ambassador rice didn't have a better explanation for her interview? >> dana: i got home last night and checked e-mail for the last time and saw she will have a meeting. i said they have it wrapped up. go in and smooth it over. you should have these
as secretary of state. susan collins, lindsey graham and john mccain all voted to confirm condoleezza rice. who would support as the next secretary of state? >> i think john kerry would be a great appointment. >> if he is nominated and confirmed, it would wave the pay for a special election. democrats aren't worried. the president is not backing down from his support for the ambassador. >> thank you so much, guys. susan rice is extraordinary. couldn't be prouder of the job she has done. [ applause ] >> let's bring in karen finney, msnbc political analyst and former communications director for the dnc. is this a communications problem with the american people. now, it is susan collins and bob corker. they are in on the frey to smear susan rice. >> i want to take one step back on this 1998 business susan collins was talking about. if we really truly want to go there, let's remember that those attacks in 1997 were when osama bin laden came to the floor and we had a clear sense of what he was about and attempting to do. if we are going to go there, let's talk about the massive intelligence failure
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personalizes it with me. lou: what about those folks like senator john mccain, senator lindsay gramm, senator chambliss the list goes on. i mean -- >> it doesn't go on. it does not go on. here's the good news. all the people who last week and said we might raise taxes under certain circumstances with the same people who said that two years ago. and every news media outlet in the country has said the last week, would you like to be famous? would you like to be called important and influential? come to our tv station and announced you areefor tax increases and we will tell everyone you are important and influential. they have had no takers, for crying out loud. all of the guys for two years have said we might raise taxes are still there. how do you think these centers like being called harry reads favor republican senators? not the way to get reelected. lou: i get that. the list does go on. he said today in articulating the idea that going with the obama plan was an interesting tactic. you must let the congressman a great deal because, as you know, the white house has seized upon that. they're
as an organization. >>> plus, the interesting title senator john mccain gave senator kerry a couple of hours ago at an event. we will play you the exchange. >>> it's the hillary clinton tribute video creating a lot of political buzz today. >> you've been one of the best secretaries of state in american history. finally, hillary, a lot has been said about our relationship, and here's what i know. you haven't been just one of my closest partners but a great friend. >> you can join our conversation on twitter. find us @tamronhall a anand and @newsnation. ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift
. leprechaun jon was toughing away on -- john mccain was puffing away calling into question rice's intellectual, vowing to block her if she's nominated. it is incredible the difference if you look back at transcripts of them defending condy rice, right? as saying she was not the -- what did eric boehlert say? she was just the consumer of bad intelligence. she wasn't the author of it. that was a war that led to what, 4,000 americans dead and how many millions of dollars. meanwhile, susan rice is you know doing the intelligence that was given to her about something that already happened. >> right. right. and did you see the thing this morning in think progress that mccain actually was on tv on september 16th and said -- and said the same thing susan rice did. it is hard to know exactly what to play. i don't have that information. i know there were demonstrations, that there was a group of either al-qaeda or some radical islamists so he said -- you know, he said that there was -- that there was a demonstration and that
. you can make the argument even john mccain who lost decisively in 2008, all the republicans and the tea party people who are demanding an end to earmarks, there was john mccain, and very little -- one of the calls mitt romney ended up having that republicans are still having today. >> the one i can think of is a possibility of capping the deductions people can take. that's something he proposed late. it seems like republicans want to forget very quickly what happened. but we will not forget yet because there is some level still we're three and a half weeks from the election, some level of postmortem. a lead strategist for romney wrote an op-ed in "the washington post" earlier this week calling romney's campaign that he did the right thing. he ran the right campaign. he was the right man for the right time. that his campaign became a national movement. those are his words not mine. a republican strategist, i want to show you what she tweeted. here is what she tweeted. she said, agree with stuart stevens. romney's campaign was a national movement. latinos and women across the
billion. >> no. but, you know, john mccain still had his senate seat and john kerry still was in the senate so there's still players in washington. you're looking at mitt romney, he didn't carry new hampshire, massachusetts, or california, his home states. there is no such thing as a romney republican anymore. they're a dwindling tribe. he doesn't have any power. he's coming today, obama looked good because he was showing a reaching out, the winner sticking out his hand and shows a spirit of bipartisanship he's trying to create through the gridlock. >> matt, are they still stunned? i watch this from 7:00 in the morning until i go to bed at midnight. i thought the election was much more pro-obama in the results than i expect. won a strong victory, a solid mandate. are they stunned by that? >> yeah, in some respects they are and trying to grapple with what happened and how their expectations got so high and how they felt -- >> stu stevens right now think tonight we're trying to figure that out. are they still going to the tea leaves? what happened here? >> there's a bit of t
and john mccain, a big press conference and really took a stance. the administration decides to send her up to try to repair things. they come out of the meeting, she obviously didn't graduate from any washington charm school, because even kelly ayotte it looked like they had just lost their best friend after that meeting. they were not happy. then there is another round of meetings and cork eri corker is saying he should withdraw the nomination. megyn: he said she would make a better dnc chair, that is debbie wasserman schultz job. >> it seems like a classic obama set up of the republicans. this is a way to bring up the whole war on women, meaning that republicans really don't understand women, look they don't have any female chairmen of their committees on capitol hill. they didn't get any of the female vote, and they just don't get it. they are doing this to this poor woman, and she is a great person and a great public servant. to me it seems like there is a political reason for continuing to, you know, trot her before the senators when they know it's not going to fly. megyn: really? the
in alaska. john mccain and lindsey graham, conservatives, said the glaciers are melting. is it due to warming notion or warming atmosphere, do we need a methane can trade system because methane is worse than carbon? some scientists said. a very controversial subject that gets heated reaction in media land. it is happening and it is happening in antarctic and greenland but how do you stop it? stuart: i don't know but i tell you this. this evidence, hard evidence will be used by the obama administration to say we have got to do something, look at hurricane sandy, we have got to do something, look at the icecaps, we have got to do something and a carbon tax will bring in money which is exactly what they want. >> he will leverage a mass delusion, connecting the dots, when you mention the hurricane we have fewer hurricanes making landfall now -- liz: the cap and trade system has a favor factory in europe which is rife with corruption. we have seen that time and again with cap and trade systems. stuart: forbes says 11 states are in a death spiral, billions in debt, no end insight, ill. n
director, michael morell, meeting with republican senators john mccain, kelly ayotte and lindsay graham, who were not pleased with what they heard. >> it is clear that the information she gave the american people was incorrect when she said it was a spontaneous demonstration triggered by a hateful video. it was not, and there was compelling evidence at the time that that was certainly not the case, including statements by libyans as well as other americans who are fully aware that people don't bring mortars and rocket-propelled grenades to spontaneous demonstrations. >> in a statement after the meeting, ambassador rice said that neither she nor anyone in the administration intended to mislead the american people. but the breaking news concerns the part in her sunday talk show statements that substituted the word "extremists" for al qaeda. remember, the administration said she was working from edited talking points. the question is, who did the editing? today, the senators say that acting director morell told them the fbi did. they say they later heard from the cia that he had quote, mis
lost the election. >> let's move on to another subject today which is the ongoing battle between john mccain and a few senators and ambassador susan rice. there is a view that it's all beginning to get a little too personal, a little too ugly. what is your opinion of it? >> well, listen, that's one of the things, national security, the decisions that have to be made in regard to the secretary of state, i'm going to leave that up to the leadership in our senate. >> it's good to see you again. i have actually missed you on the airways, reince priebus. welcome back. take care. >>> president obama is launching a full court press of bush era tax cuts are allowed to expire, it will cripple the economy. mr. kruger, welcome to you. >> thank you. >> is the president going to hold his nerve and increase taxes or is he going to be bullied off by the republicans to try and do a deal to avoid falling off the fiscal cliff? >> the president has been quite clear that he wants a balanced approach to our deficit problems, that he wants higher revenue raised from increasing taxes for the top 2%, the mos
-to-face with rice yesterday republican senators john mccain and lindsey graham and kelly ayotte announced they were more troubled than ever. >> i continue to be troubled by the fact that the u.n. ambassador decided to play what was essentially a political role at the height of a contentious presidential election campaign. >> eliot: but president obama stood up for rice today during his first post-election cabinet meeting when asked about the ambassador's reception on the hill. >> obama: sue an rice is extraordinary. couldn't be prouder of the job she's done at the usun. >> joining me now is pj crowley who served under both presidents clinton and obama. he's now a professor at george washington university. thanks for your wisdom. >> hi, eliot. >> eliot: the reception that ambassador rice is getting on the hill is almost unprecedented unprecedented. i don't remember an u.s. diplomat being roughed up this way, is there a historical metaphor for this? >> not recently. i think in terms of the senate interfering, if you want to say that, you have to go back to john tower in 1989. i mean, politics is a c
was a spontaneous reaction to an anti-muslim video, some trouble-making clown made out in california. ignoring john mccain and his ail argue evidence it was an organized act of terrorism. not so says the president. his u.n. ambassador and close friend simply told the truth as she was permitted to tell it, what the cia gave her to say and no more. for that he charges susan rice, in the words of the new york post, being fried. political fight fans on the tabloids relish this extreme combat what should be a good person's judgment? that's my question tonight. is susan rice now a surrogate for the president, someone to take the punishment when others above her pay grade should be answering the questions, or is she accountable for going on national television knowing she can't tell the whole truth because it's classified? let's begin with senator susan collins, republican of maine. i guess it's the toughest question in the world, senator, and that is, do you believe that susan rice, the u.n. ambassador, knowingly covered up a breach of national security? >> well, let me say this, chris, our purpose is to
day for one of the chief messengers, susan rice. just a day after iraqi session with senators john mccain, lindsey graham, kelly ayotte, she met with another republican senator, susan collins of maine. >> i continue to be troubled by the fact that the u.n. ambassador decided to play what was essentially a political role at the height of the contentious presidential election campaign, by agreeing to go on the sunday shows, to present the administration's position. >> this is what she is talking about, one of several appearances ambassador rice made five days after the consulate killings. >> our current assessment is that what happened in benghazi was in fact, initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in cairo. what we think, then, transpired in benghazi is the extremist elements came to the consulate, as this was unfolding. >> notice the phrase "extremist elements." we since learned that ambassador rice was speaking to talking points, regarding jihadist groups, including a local al-qaeda affiliate. the intelligence community was said to have made the edit. m
. there is a meeting between president obama and senator john mccain. there are a few photos like this but it is an interesting lunch. we're not going to see it though. if we see it it will be an official photo release. we won't get a camera in the room. we know what it isn't. it isn't public. it is not an offer a cabinet post. jay carney made that clear and it is not a beer summit. >> bill: it could be an o'doul summit. >> or a milk sum et. -- summit. >> the president said both on election night and then at a press conference a week later he wanted to talk to mitt romney saying that he thought he had some good ideas saying that maybe his of his management experience running the salt lake city could be applied to streamlining the federal government. >> bill: i heard the president say that. i thought he was just sort of making nice, right? but then he for actually followed through and invited him to lunch. >> mitt romney got a lot of applause for the way he handled the salt lake city olympics. he turned a wre
warfare. they're now trying to start racial welfare in country. look who the targets are. john mccain and lindsey graham, for the love of god. where were you fellows when clarence thomas was in the hearings? where were you with allen west in florida? you'll never be found when a conservative black man is attacked. you make up these things. no one was said one word, one word, about this woman's skin color. nobody has, except for them. >> sean: it's not about that, but you can't be critical, because then all of a sudden the democratic machine in the media comes at you and we're back with -- >> sean, if she were white, they would say that mccain and graham were antiwoman. there's no talk being the issues here. they'll do everything they can to deflect. let's understand something, mccain and graham are doing their sworn duty, constitutional mandate, of advise and consent. they're doing what the law demands they do. >> sean: the media apparently doesn't care, that the american people were misled, four dead americans, the first ambassador in 30 years, but it's not a big deal to them. speaki
the majority of the middle class voters while john mccain lost white voters younger than 30 by 10 points. romney won these voters, sure, he talks about how they won. but i got bad news
a lot of here. think about the last two people who lost the election. john mccain, and his news, john kerry, still a big force in the senate and maybe a nominee for secretary of state. it's hard to see mitt romney in the roles. remember that one of the ideas that mitt romney floated during the presidential campaign, just might be part of the deal that gets -- >> which is the cap. >> a cap. he would put a pretty low cap, $17,000 on high income taxpayers. it's possible that will survive even though mitt romney's presidential prospects did not. >> or could be a $50,000 cap or something even higher than that. now chris cizilla, let's talk about the lack of civility or the contentiousness of this susan rice situation where she's back on the hill today. let me play a little bit of susan collins, republican from maine, known as a moderate, discussing the possibility of a john kerry nomination to be secretary of state. >> i think john kerry would be an excellent appointment and would be easily confirmed by his colleagues. >> at the same time, there was really no love there for susan rice and
on the hill, michael, there is a funny moment. some obscure issue, john mccain and john kerry actually agreed on and held a joint news conference and little back and forth needling of the other. here's john kerry when he finishes his remarks and calls on senator mccain. >> senator mccain -- >> thank you very much mr. secretary. [ laughter ] >> bill: talking state? >> thank you very much, mr. president. [ laughter ] >> this is what happens when you get two losers up here, folks. [ laughter ] we're just having fun. >> bill: good comeback on john kerry's part. >> mccain didn't think that was so funny. >> bill: all right. we've got lots to cover. john boehner actually out yesterday with a counterproposal on the fiscal cliff but how serious is it? really? we'll get into that and a whole lot more. but first -- >> this is the "full court press." >> other headlines making news, the new york city homeless man who was in that photo that went viral last week where a police officer brought him a pair of shoes on a cold n
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